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Soccer and Society, with Paul Alabarces

In recent weeks, the judicial authorities and the Mayor of Medellin have been the subject of some criticism for the decisions made around the sanctions to the bar In the South, Atletico Nacional, and Rexixtenxia North, Deportivo Independiente Medellín, for acts of violence ending tournament featuring the Mustang Cup 2008. Also, have also been known, through different media, the judicial decision in which eight fans of DIM were sentenced to ten years in prison with the right to appeal the death of a fan of Nacional. However, eight followers of the latter, another judge granted home detention in holding that pose no danger to society. What is the message we are sending the municipal government, headed by Alonso Salazar, and judicial authorities to call that city hooligans?

Alabarces In an interview with Paul, a specialist in the analysis of popular culture and one of the founders of the sociology of sport in Latin America, who is also author of the book Chronicles of Stamina (2004), Football and homeland. Football and the narratives of the nation in Argentina (2008), among others, talked about the phenomenon of violence in Argentine football, its appearance, its environment and the role society plays Argentina in front of it.

Juan Diego Valencia What time is the phenomenon of hooligans in Argentina?

Paul Alabarces: The height, the explosion of the hooligans in Argentina, coincides with the end of the dictatorship. During those years there is a process of clandestine relationship between the leaders of the bars, sports leaders, sports officials and political leaders. All this comes to light at the end of the dictatorship, say for the possibility of public appearance. What allows this outbreak, the framework of legitimacy of that action, is the violation of basic contract of the monopoly of violence at the hands of the State who had been raped during the dictatorship by the State. The homology hooligans played by the task force model in Argentina. Ie clandestine paramilitary groups and military responsible for the illegal repression during the dictatorship. I do not speak of a linear playback, talk white bars that occupy these spaces and assume the tasks of these clandestine groups. That is, the bars do not kidnap nobody, not shoot anybody, do not torture anyone, do not pull anyone from a helicopter. What happens is that a group of boys leaves, surrounding a technical and say, "I think you you have to go, and obviously the coach is going." In that sense, white bars are fully visible to society because they perform also entirely legitimate activities inside and outside of football culture. That is, a guy feels important because it is part of a bar while no more line to be treated by a doctor, for that matter the individual acquires legitimacy in society by being a member of a crowd.

JDV: "In 2008 about 10 people died in violence surrounding the Colombian football, how was the situation of violence in Argentine football?

PA: In Argentina, the statistic is very misleading because in one incident, which happened about 40 years ago at the Estadio Monumental River Plate, there are more than 70 dead. Until that event, much as the crow flies, the dead totaling 20. Today, the story tells of something like 230 or 240 dead in argentino1 football history.

JDV: How has acted Argentina justice against those responsible for these acts of violence?

PA: The hooligans are not guilty of acts of violence. Ultimately it is the arm of a culture shaped by two things: the endurance and corruption. White bars, finally, what they do is tell the Argentine football, "Why do we look?, If we are as corrupt as you all claim our part in the business." For example, a case of such exploits last year (2007) with an internal bar River Plate, who leaves behind the murder of Gonzalo Acro. What's on there? Any dispute or a dispute symbolic power of prestige? No, there were a lot of money involved because the River Bar negotiated with the leadership of the club a percentage of the transfer of their players because blacks had received illegal funds to travel to World Cup 2006, they had Official entries trafficked worldwide. That's a spectacular phenomenon of corruption where the bar berates a football institution saying you are corrupt, we, us in exchange for participating in this what we do is shut our mouths, stimulate, shake, etc.. etc.

JDV: How investigates the problem of violence in Argentine football?

PA: No major funding to investigate the association football violence. Since 1990 there have been only two doctoral theses. In the mass media does not investigate, or that depends on the media. Journalists are very intelligent, very sensitive, very readers, but most prefer the status stigmatizing, ie the segmentation of the problem. It says, "is a problem only for a certain group called hooligans who are all irrational, beasts, wild animals, black, and you have to do is delete them and solve the whole problem." It shows ignorance and complicity. The academy has a legitimacy and autonomy system certainly much better than journalism is not a member of Julio Grondona, president of the AFA, in terms of television rights, or a member of the Minister of the Interior, now in charge of the Ministry of Justice and head of security, who was also mayor of the city of Quilmes therefore responsible for the barra brava of Quilmes Club for twelve years. Around the relationship between means and academia, in recent years something has changed. Our voice, that of the academy, is sought and approved. For example, some people in a bar approached me and told me: "You do not know me, he!, But I heard it."

JDV: In this regard, what role society plays in this phenomenon?

PA: The same guy who claims the punishment on the facts of a bar, which is celebrated with another. That's the world of the legitimacy of violence, no recognition of the problems, there is hypocrisy. My fight public argument, because every so often there is a death, that is not a phenomenon of exceptionality but a logic which organizes the whole football culture in Argentina: the stamina. In terms of British sociology subculture could call it a very organic structure of every practice. And speaking of that there is only white bars, this is all assets of Argentine soccer fans, as those who show endurance in combat or those who demonstrate the endurance encouraging his fighters.

In Argentina there is an organization called Save the football that works with another called

"Families of victims of football" (Favifa). Save the football is run by a young woman who had severe incidents with a club bar and Mariano Berges, a lawyer and former judge. Favifa was created by the mother of a murdered child in the Copa America 1995, held in Uruguay. These organizations allow greater dissemination of ideas and alternatives to the phenomenon as I am increasingly pessimistic about the possibility of state action in this regard, I am more convinced that the responsibility goes for the fans assuming as civil society actors. Every time I believe more in the capacity of civil society self-organization and empowerment. In football too. In England, the British Confederation of fans, was structured as a civil society organization. With great force. There is a stigma in Argentina for the young of the popular classes who are said: "logical that these people can do if given the head." And this phenomenon is similar to that happened from British sociology when he said on the subject: it is rude young, working class, excluded civilization processes.

JDV: From 2007se year AFA discussed in a plan called the Census of fans, in addition to the rigorous implementation of various laws that seek to reduce violence around the football, what is your opinion about this?

PA: Argentina is commonplace and is copied to the British. What I do is study, and that's what the British did. In Argentina, you have all the fans sitting with them identified that is done one by one, a terrible social discipline. Po contrast, the British began the Tyler report, organized as a democracy deserves a commission charged with investigating the slaughter of Heysel in 1985 while playing the final of European Cup, and the Belgians gave him the academic research to Lobaina University, not the police, and for example in Argentina nobody read the Tyler report. All I can say is that the first thing to do with the phenomenon of football hooliganism is to study. One wonders if we know what we mean when we relate the theme of social classes with football, in the case of Argentina is very clear: there are obviously very popular bar, but we also found that one of the worst bars the most violent of Argentine football, the Club Atletico River Plate, is an upper middle-class bar. To do research to know which sectors of society are involved in the phenomenon, and then doing anthropological work, ethnography in the swollen.

JDV: What these studies would yield results?

PA: The first version given by the British after the slaughter of Hillsborough was that it was a muskrat of the hooligans. However, the investigation reveals that the fault lay in front of the police mishandling of the mass movement, terrified by the hooligans, that is the paranoia of hooligan killed 96 people. This idea of \u200b\u200bparanoia makes us think they are all criminals.

On the contrary, we must make a democratic recognition of the rights to the fans: the entry of flags, the use of musical instruments and the income of fireworks in the sense that when it is legalized can be controlled if not could cause a tragedy. In addition, a contract must be submitted democratic, legitimate and legal groups between the head of the bar and the police commissioner to reach an agreement on what can and can not do the bar, for example, make them know their democratic duties as are not kill people, not attack the players, among others.

JDV: Finally, what do you think needs to be done to address this phenomenon?

PA: One of our findings is that national policies are needed, of a purely democratic, and football has become such a force in the society because, among other things, is the best example of democratic imagination in modern society. For example, the rich against the poor, the weak against the strong, where anyone can win. However, football has become profoundly undemocratic: the strongest wins consistently, known scandals of corruption, money involved, perks, etc.

Finally, the solution of the problem of football violence, ultimately, is more democracy, more democracy radically. In this way, I try to reclaim the old eighteenth-century liberal ideology that every individual is innocent until he is proven otherwise. Even in football, the treatment of violence suggests that every spectator is a criminal. The problem is that you can not democratize the social relations but the fully democratic. So I say you can not start a process without intervening these sporting bodies.

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South America, A BAR A

Under the World Peace Summit 2009 which will take place in Bogotá, Colombia, Damian, a member of Red Riot Bogotá will launch its Documentary "South America, a bar, hold" . event The idea is to build collectively a favorable scenario for reflection, exchange and global dialogue on peace born of the conviction that a just life and peaceful coexistence are the horizon of humanity has sought for centuries without success. Since the world community has always tried to reach horizons of coexistence and peace, that pursuit, often frustrated, is a permanent mission of all human beings who believe and work for peace and justice.

INTRODUCTION

Few fictional stories exceed reality, especially when the piece of reality show is told from the experience of almost ten years of passion, the documentary is, evidence and reporting, internal narrative is a fan, a barrister who wants to visualize another way of seeing soccer life, the passions generated, people who rely on each comparison to his team, as football cuts across various forms of life, showing that face non-obvious and visible only by its protagonists.

SYNOPSIS

The passion for football runs through the veins of people worldwide. United by this feeling, different colors, professions, countries, religions and races come together to encourage a team, cheer and yell with the soul, and then comes the brotherhood that binds foreign countries distant, with the same force and celebration of joy to see one goal breaking the network, a sisterhood that makes possible the survival of a barrister anywhere in the world. This is the story of a Latin American tour that encourages barrista America de Cali, and the relationship of brotherhood between bars across the continent.

PLACE, DATE AND TIME:

Music Auditorium

Virgilio Barco Library

Cra 60 No. 57-60 Avenida

Thursday October 1, 2009

9:00 a.m.

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AGUANTE Youth Policy Forum, Social Barrismo and urban conflict: Versions from different actors

OBJECTIVE

The forum aims to build a picture of versions about the status of the bars football its location within the spectrum of conflict in the city and urban life, to the initiatives by organized youth and the measures taken by the state and national and district governments, which can foster new frameworks for reflection and action against a phenomenon that recurrently draws attention to ways of building our public life.

METHODOLOGY

The forum is structured in three thematic working groups aimed at identifying versions from different points of view: 1) academic analysis and debate, 2) discussions and political views, 3) the eyes of mass media. Each table will have some speakers and a general rapporteur, which will be presented and discussed at the closing.

PAPERS

TABLE 1 - URBAN CONFLICT, YOUNG AND BARS

Fernando Bravo - Social Researcher Urban Conflict

Germain Gomez - Researcher Social and swells.

TABLE 2 - SOCIAL POLICY, YOUTH AND BARRISMO

Mauricio Parodi - House Representative Jose Miguel

Sanchez - Government Secretariat

Felipe Garcés - Fundación Juan Manuel Bermudez Nieto

TABLE 3 - MEANS OF COMMUNICATION AND BARS

José Fernando Hoyos - Journalist - Semana

Juan Diego Valencia - Journalist - Rexixtenxia North

PLACE, DATE AND TIME

University Distrital Francisco José de Caldas

Faculty of Science and Education

Main Auditorium San Juan Brothers

Carrera 3 No. 26A - 40

Thursday October 1, 2009

8:00 am. - 1:00 pm.

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Social Barrismo, awareness and focus, what about us!

As many know, the social barrismo promises to be the best solution to many acts of violence that revolve around the country barrista environment, eye, which revolves around this situation follows many , barrister, law enforcement authorities, national football authorities and all fans attending the football stadium. In this situation many have wanted to come to feel connected to this "new form of barrismo" but with what happened so far in the Copa Mustang II, indeed with what is happening day after day with barrismo from adopting social barrismo this idea, what can we say?.

worth rescuing, stress or suddenly rethink, for those who are poorly focused with the desire to make a barrismo committed to society, with people the stars, which beautifies the football and his party, suddenly seeing many subjects and what each bar made towards this ideal, but without taking what he deserves, is very well the work that many do in these social work, create opportunities, community support and many works throughout the country I I learned by members of each bar. This generates me a question, what then is what to do?, Is quite tangible and observable the picture, seeing that many are working to change the battered face of Colombian barrismo, but the day comes that one or two black pearls damaging the work of many, as if nothing would serve, and again with more strength to our ideals maltreat lash out and label our identities with words where many citizens should feel sometimes expelled from their society, no country, that feeling I generated by the government of the country where I was born, live and sleep, when I said vandal, criminals, terrorists!. No such feeling is exaggerated, and sometimes we are sad to admit that listening to invade us, of course, we are attacked, we label, we turn away, mistreat us, they do what they like with the rights of each person, just go to the stadium with the passion that characterized not to a barrister, is the passion that characterized the Colombian. But hey, this is what I want to raise it as a criticism, it's quick, easy, raise your voice to a complaint or protest by a right, I think that should slip out of our culture and, at least until the work, commitment and effort of many more shows on paper what we mean, streets, parks, forums and meetings be reflected in every space that we won.

entering this criticism, to look a little, on us, as it is the only way to be objective in what we undertake and we want to change to our good. Arriving at this point and with life experiences, I open my eyes to realize how misguided and wrong way some take, either by lack of guidance, lack of help the subject or, for that simply are false commitments and just want to find that space is the social barrismo in the society and from there take refuge every time you want to do acts that have nothing to do with our culture, I mean with words more realistic, some swollen the barrismo social work, in my view misguided, reason, lack of guidance, assistance, by the people who really are committed to the project, but there are swollen all they did was hiding in our work and hide behind false commitments, comes the day that happens what should not happen, violence, and these people that the waste can get away with our own hands, only because they are here with us, I see a hypocrisy in that work and how the government if what happens there is a leak not what we want in our environment. Analyzing this, I get to this part that is where I want to reconsider, in memory, will rescue each of the goals we should work every day with the Social Barrismo is a fact that is a compromise, which is best for us No one came to say that we did, we chose ourselves and what we take, are we taking it?, Social Barrismo when we say, what part of society works this ideal?, am I crazy or not? The Social Barrismo is ours, to work as ours, for us, Social Barrismo is What on us as well and so simple, all you want is that many rethink their actions and commitments and in turn the greatest responsibility for ensuring that this takes place is realize that many work in what is not, many work for them, who are they?, no, but I'm sure is not us, then, 'cause we do not work for us?. Hear and read such conducted a social swollen in the neighborhood such gift, gift, help, collaborate, that is social, if clear, but is Social Barrismo?, I'll explain more, what would be the difference if I see some swelling work and do social work, help the community, but are the same, and if another swollen undertake these works in their interiors?, those working to improve their interior quality of life of each member?, would require either much when instead of raising money to bring gifts to people need, that does not mean it's bad for us, but if this money or any help you generate in the work we invested in the same bloated, education, culture, employment, places to stay away from drug addiction, spaces where each member learn to respect life and respect the free development of personality, is a world within us that we help, Social Barrismo for us, is us, help us improve ourselves, is the only way of showing society that we can be better than many others, if a government says criminals, terrorists, would it be good to do their job helping the needy? or help us and streets demonstrating that we can be better than them in their society that we in our society.

is not much that we have much work and if we lose every day when we abuse and take us away from our space, the courts, but when we raise our voice of protest should be a guarantee that demonstrates what we are and what we do to be, let us focus our work more in we, in conscience, do not be hypocritical and make no mistake, we can do better and helping each one in its own area, each swelling, rather than buried in cemeteries fans can turn them into people's copy our bloated, working with them, not unite with them in the same problem, not much, awareness and focus in on us! Social Barrismo, because we are people and we have rights ... and duties.

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